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	<title>Comments on: Martin Eisenstadt &#8211; The End (?)</title>
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		<title>By: dgun</title>
		<link>http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2008/11/12/martin-eisenstadt-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-169567</link>
		<dc:creator>dgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain Toddy.

But what Eisenstadt was able to do acts as a pretty good criticism of &#039;modern&#039; media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain Toddy.</p>
<p>But what Eisenstadt was able to do acts as a pretty good criticism of &#8216;modern&#8217; media.</p>
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		<title>By: Toddy</title>
		<link>http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2008/11/12/martin-eisenstadt-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-169560</link>
		<dc:creator>Toddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the article I just read there was a suggestion Mr. Wolfrum that you might be part of the hoax.

No idea, but I want to commend you for refuting the Eisenstadt assertions if you weren&#039;t part of the hoax.

I also find this whole notion of dis/mis-informing people during an election vile.

Of all the things we should be taking seriously, votes and elections, to not add more debris to already murky waters would be one of the most sacred.  Imagining these two 40ish people acting like this is a simple college prank is revolting.  This whole hoax a very poor excuse for humor.  

I wonder how many people believed what Eisenstadt said, people who voted!  And, due to controversy, consider the banter a form of validation, the idea that the person would have admitted it early on to assure they do not mistakenly influence someone&#039;s vote.  Does Mr. Eisenstadt have any idea how many people he influenced or did not influence?

If this had been a vote in a courtroom he&#039;d be guilty of jury tampering.  The honor and respect, at least amongst the people themselves (not the candidates), of our American vote is a voluntary sequester to assure someone didn&#039;t vote on false pretenses, mis-information or an outright lie.

I should hope that if this Eisenstadt ever finds himself in a criminal prosecution that someone happens to dis/mis-inform the jury of his dealings with OJ&#039;s attorneys, and his working at a homeless shelter where he cleaned and re-distributed the clothing OJ wore at the time of Nicole&#039;s demise.  Numerous homeless individuals received them randomly just to make sure they&#039;d be lost over time and throughout Los Angeles where no one would look.

Not that any of that is true but I think I illustrated my point to how this whole hoax during a Presidential Election disrespects the vote.

Thank you for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the article I just read there was a suggestion Mr. Wolfrum that you might be part of the hoax.</p>
<p>No idea, but I want to commend you for refuting the Eisenstadt assertions if you weren&#8217;t part of the hoax.</p>
<p>I also find this whole notion of dis/mis-informing people during an election vile.</p>
<p>Of all the things we should be taking seriously, votes and elections, to not add more debris to already murky waters would be one of the most sacred.  Imagining these two 40ish people acting like this is a simple college prank is revolting.  This whole hoax a very poor excuse for humor.  </p>
<p>I wonder how many people believed what Eisenstadt said, people who voted!  And, due to controversy, consider the banter a form of validation, the idea that the person would have admitted it early on to assure they do not mistakenly influence someone&#8217;s vote.  Does Mr. Eisenstadt have any idea how many people he influenced or did not influence?</p>
<p>If this had been a vote in a courtroom he&#8217;d be guilty of jury tampering.  The honor and respect, at least amongst the people themselves (not the candidates), of our American vote is a voluntary sequester to assure someone didn&#8217;t vote on false pretenses, mis-information or an outright lie.</p>
<p>I should hope that if this Eisenstadt ever finds himself in a criminal prosecution that someone happens to dis/mis-inform the jury of his dealings with OJ&#8217;s attorneys, and his working at a homeless shelter where he cleaned and re-distributed the clothing OJ wore at the time of Nicole&#8217;s demise.  Numerous homeless individuals received them randomly just to make sure they&#8217;d be lost over time and throughout Los Angeles where no one would look.</p>
<p>Not that any of that is true but I think I illustrated my point to how this whole hoax during a Presidential Election disrespects the vote.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Bean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw the article in NYT and thought &quot;Hey, I&#039;ve been reading about how this is a hoax for ages&quot; and then they quoted you.  I loved how they ended the article.  I guess that&#039;s how the NYT does &quot;edgy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the article in NYT and thought &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;ve been reading about how this is a hoax for ages&#8221; and then they quoted you.  I loved how they ended the article.  I guess that&#8217;s how the NYT does &#8220;edgy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: William K. Wolfrum Chronicles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Martin Eisenstadt was not - I repeat - was not Carl Cameron&#8217;s source for the Sarah Palin smears</title>
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		<dc:creator>William K. Wolfrum Chronicles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Martin Eisenstadt was not - I repeat - was not Carl Cameron&#8217;s source for the Sarah Palin smears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: William K. Wolfrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>William K. Wolfrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap. My hoax of being a hoax was outed by a hoax.

And thanks, Dgun. Kinda surreal that whole episode ended up in the NY Times, eh? I still believe &quot;Eisenstadt&quot; will have another &quot;scoop&quot; again in a week or two and everyone will fall for it again. I suppose my faith in the media is a tad shaky these days.

Chingona: lol, great story. You could have kept the credit for yourself, of course. And then after you hit it big, you could send me 10 percent of what you make. That&#039;s one Mormon philosophy I can get behind ;) 

Seriously, though, thanks and I&#039;m glad to have helped. All you can do is keep being honest and ethical and hope the pendulum swings back to where journalists are appreciated for being good, rather than being stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap. My hoax of being a hoax was outed by a hoax.</p>
<p>And thanks, Dgun. Kinda surreal that whole episode ended up in the NY Times, eh? I still believe &#8220;Eisenstadt&#8221; will have another &#8220;scoop&#8221; again in a week or two and everyone will fall for it again. I suppose my faith in the media is a tad shaky these days.</p>
<p>Chingona: lol, great story. You could have kept the credit for yourself, of course. And then after you hit it big, you could send me 10 percent of what you make. That&#8217;s one Mormon philosophy I can get behind <img src='http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Seriously, though, thanks and I&#8217;m glad to have helped. All you can do is keep being honest and ethical and hope the pendulum swings back to where journalists are appreciated for being good, rather than being stars.</p>
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		<title>By: chingona</title>
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		<dc:creator>chingona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to thank you for your tireless investigation of this matter. Thanks to having read your stuff on Eisenstadt oh those many months ago over at Shakesville, I scored big time points with my boss this evening. I&#039;m a reporter at a mid-sized daily, covering local government. He&#039;s my assistant city editor. We operate under extremely stringent, nearly impossible rules on anonymous sources for our own work (though we&#039;re not so strict about wire copy). He told me how the most cruel and improbable anonymously sourced accusations against Palin turned out to be the work of an Internet hoaxster, some character named Martin Eisenstadt. My eyes grew wide and I exclaimed &quot;Martin Eisenstadt!&quot; and explained what I knew from your work. He now thinks I&#039;m smarter than the entire New York Times put together, and told the city editor how even his reporter in Bumblefuck, Arizona, knew the guy was a hoaxster when all these big publications got taken in. &quot;Don&#039;t I always tell you you&#039;re just as good as any of those guys!&quot; he crowed. &quot;You think they&#039;re better than you? You&#039;re better than they are!&quot; I gave all credit where it was due - to you - but he&#039;s still impressed. What we&#039;re depressed about is how bad shit like this make those of us fighting the good fight, doing our due diligence and behaving ethically look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to thank you for your tireless investigation of this matter. Thanks to having read your stuff on Eisenstadt oh those many months ago over at Shakesville, I scored big time points with my boss this evening. I&#8217;m a reporter at a mid-sized daily, covering local government. He&#8217;s my assistant city editor. We operate under extremely stringent, nearly impossible rules on anonymous sources for our own work (though we&#8217;re not so strict about wire copy). He told me how the most cruel and improbable anonymously sourced accusations against Palin turned out to be the work of an Internet hoaxster, some character named Martin Eisenstadt. My eyes grew wide and I exclaimed &#8220;Martin Eisenstadt!&#8221; and explained what I knew from your work. He now thinks I&#8217;m smarter than the entire New York Times put together, and told the city editor how even his reporter in Bumblefuck, Arizona, knew the guy was a hoaxster when all these big publications got taken in. &#8220;Don&#8217;t I always tell you you&#8217;re just as good as any of those guys!&#8221; he crowed. &#8220;You think they&#8217;re better than you? You&#8217;re better than they are!&#8221; I gave all credit where it was due &#8211; to you &#8211; but he&#8217;s still impressed. What we&#8217;re depressed about is how bad shit like this make those of us fighting the good fight, doing our due diligence and behaving ethically look.</p>
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		<title>By: dgun</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: hugh.c.mcbride</title>
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		<dc:creator>hugh.c.mcbride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a minute -- WK Wolfrum is a *real person*? 

I thought he was just my imaginary friend, like McCain&#039;s Joe the Plumber on that SNL skit.

Well, now ... this just changes *everything*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a minute &#8212; WK Wolfrum is a *real person*? </p>
<p>I thought he was just my imaginary friend, like McCain&#8217;s Joe the Plumber on that SNL skit.</p>
<p>Well, now &#8230; this just changes *everything*</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Thanks, Bob)

&lt;i&gt;“As if there isn’t enough misinformation on this election, it was shocking to see so much time wasted on things that didn’t exist,” Mr. Wolfrum said in an interview.

And how can we know that Mr. Wolfrum is real and not part of the hoax?

Long pause. “Yeah, that’s a tough one.”&lt;/i&gt;

Well, we know he&#039;s already been unmasked as both “The One who threw the ball” and “He who can deliver desire,” so....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Thanks, Bob)</p>
<p><i>“As if there isn’t enough misinformation on this election, it was shocking to see so much time wasted on things that didn’t exist,” Mr. Wolfrum said in an interview.</p>
<p>And how can we know that Mr. Wolfrum is real and not part of the hoax?</p>
<p>Long pause. “Yeah, that’s a tough one.”</i></p>
<p>Well, we know he&#8217;s already been unmasked as both “The One who threw the ball” and “He who can deliver desire,” so&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Jen&#039;s gonna say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Jen&#8217;s gonna say.</p>
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