Comments on: The CyClone Dairy Hoax leads to “Food & Water Watch” http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/ Bill Wolfrum's world of news, satire and commentary Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:20:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Food Pills of the Future » Blog Archive » 20 Bucks Says CyCloneDairy… http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-217874 Food Pills of the Future » Blog Archive » 20 Bucks Says CyCloneDairy… Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:28:29 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-217874 [...] Update: Looks like I could be wrong.  Cyclone Dairy may have been unmasked. Guess I give the organic dairy peeps too much credit. [...] [...] Update: Looks like I could be wrong.  Cyclone Dairy may have been unmasked. Guess I give the organic dairy peeps too much credit. [...]

]]> By: William K. Wolfrum http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-217266 William K. Wolfrum Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:12:09 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-217266 <em>Try scare-tactic marketing.</em> Well put. I update this story with the <a href="http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/30/ben-jerrys-the-final-piece-of-the-cyclone-dairy-hoax/" rel="nofollow">Ben & Jerry's connection here</a>, btw. Try scare-tactic marketing.

Well put. I update this story with the Ben & Jerry’s connection here, btw.

]]> By: hmmmdonuts http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-217242 hmmmdonuts Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:52:58 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-217242 Educational Satire? Try scare-tactic marketing. It is the creation of Ben & Jerry's and will be revealed tomorrow as an April Fools joke. Really funny, B&J, making up a company to try to scare people into believing that your organic ice cream is better than what the rest of the world is eating. Milk is milk, folks. Educational Satire? Try scare-tactic marketing. It is the creation of Ben & Jerry’s and will be revealed tomorrow as an April Fools joke. Really funny, B&J, making up a company to try to scare people into believing that your organic ice cream is better than what the rest of the world is eating.

Milk is milk, folks.

]]> By: Mike Stein http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-216808 Mike Stein Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:24:59 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-216808 Our organization has been in the vanguard of the fight to stop the incursion of cloned food into our food supply. Our label will identify meat and dairy products that have NOT been derived from cloned animals or their offspring. The Wall Street Journal reported in its Septenber 2, 2008 issue that "milk and meat from the offspring of cloned livestock are entering the U.S. food supply." The Journal states that the "number of clones is on the rise, and no one is keeping track of all their offspring." Numerous public opinion polls have shown that up to 71% of Americans do not want to purchase food derived from cloned animals. America must wake up to this issue before it is too late. Our organization has been in the vanguard of the fight to stop the incursion of cloned food into our food supply. Our label will identify meat and dairy products that have NOT been derived from cloned animals or their offspring. The Wall Street Journal reported in its Septenber 2, 2008 issue that “milk and meat from the offspring of cloned livestock are entering the U.S. food supply.” The Journal states that the “number of clones is on the rise, and no one is keeping track of all their offspring.” Numerous public opinion polls have shown that up to 71% of Americans do not want to purchase food derived from cloned animals. America must wake up to this issue before it is too late.

]]> By: Than Angell http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-216611 Than Angell Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:59:26 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-216611 My question is, when is someone going to run with all this great PR and actually create this CyClone dairy? I'm not afraid of GM, so where can I get some GFP milk? My question is, when is someone going to run with all this great PR and actually create this CyClone dairy? I’m not afraid of GM, so where can I get some GFP milk?

]]> By: Joe Blow http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-216482 Joe Blow Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:02:10 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-216482 There is a certain large socially conscious company involved that will make sense once it comes out. There is a certain large socially conscious company involved that will make sense once it comes out.

]]> By: amy thomson http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-216396 amy thomson Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:58:25 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-216396 It's a really GOOD fake. Speaking as an agriculture major, I have to say that milk from cloned cows really isn't different from regular cows. Frankly it's far less risky than Bovine Growth Hormone. For me the big issue is that it would reduce the genetic variability of the dairy herd, and therefore its ability to react to a new disease or pest. My big problem with Big Dairy is the fact that they have bred dairy cows for production at the cost of the animals health. Most cows give seventy pounds of milk PER milking (that's seventy pounds TWICE a day! Ouch. It’s a really GOOD fake. Speaking as an agriculture major, I have to say that milk from cloned cows really isn’t different from regular cows. Frankly it’s far less risky than Bovine Growth Hormone. For me the big issue is that it would reduce the genetic variability of the dairy herd, and therefore its ability to react to a new disease or pest.

My big problem with Big Dairy is the fact that they have bred dairy cows for production at the cost of the animals health. Most cows give seventy pounds of milk PER milking (that’s seventy pounds TWICE a day! Ouch.

]]> By: William K. Wolfrum Chronicles » Blog Archive » April Fools - a final thought on CyClone Dairy http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215970 William K. Wolfrum Chronicles » Blog Archive » April Fools - a final thought on CyClone Dairy Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:57:47 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215970 [...] Over at Fair Food Fight, El Dragón has some very good points about the CyClone Dairy hoax. It would have been far better to have construct a campaign that allowed people in on the joke immediately, to engage people in a way that would have allowed them to feel “in on the joke” and to inspire them to spread the word virally to others who might enjoy the joke, too. [...] [...] Over at Fair Food Fight, El Dragón has some very good points about the CyClone Dairy hoax. It would have been far better to have construct a campaign that allowed people in on the joke immediately, to engage people in a way that would have allowed them to feel “in on the joke” and to inspire them to spread the word virally to others who might enjoy the joke, too. [...]

]]> By: Scott Rogers http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215865 Scott Rogers Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:47:33 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215865 The Cyclone Dairy isn't a fake, it's obviously educational satire. Sheesh, next you will be showing how clever you are by debunking Jonathan Swift's Modest Proposal, or proving that Mark Twain is a fake since his real name is Samual Clemens. The Cyclone Dairy isn’t a fake, it’s obviously educational satire.

Sheesh, next you will be showing how clever you are by debunking Jonathan Swift’s Modest Proposal, or proving that Mark Twain is a fake since his real name is Samual Clemens.

]]> By: William K. Wolfrum http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215803 William K. Wolfrum Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:00:20 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215803 Thanks for making your points, Oregon Gal. I hope that this issue does get debated more. But detecting that CyClone Dairy is a fake shouldn't take more than a third of a brain cell and shouldn't take more than a couple minutes. For someone in the dairy industry, it should have taken milli-seconds to see it's fake. So I'm sort of feeling that you're astroturfing me. I agree with some other comments that this PR Campaign should have been made more comical. As of now, it's like FWW is just trying to put one over on people, rather than including them in on the joke and taking the debate from there. Honest discussion beats the hell out of hoaxing people. P.S.: I'm all for anyone commenting on the issue of cloned animals here, but try not to insult my intelligence by pretending that CyClone Dairy is somehow real. It's not. Thanks for making your points, Oregon Gal. I hope that this issue does get debated more. But detecting that CyClone Dairy is a fake shouldn’t take more than a third of a brain cell and shouldn’t take more than a couple minutes. For someone in the dairy industry, it should have taken milli-seconds to see it’s fake. So I’m sort of feeling that you’re astroturfing me.

I agree with some other comments that this PR Campaign should have been made more comical. As of now, it’s like FWW is just trying to put one over on people, rather than including them in on the joke and taking the debate from there. Honest discussion beats the hell out of hoaxing people.

P.S.: I’m all for anyone commenting on the issue of cloned animals here, but try not to insult my intelligence by pretending that CyClone Dairy is somehow real. It’s not.

]]> By: Oregon Gal http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215776 Oregon Gal Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:59:27 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215776 I linked onto the site from a DailyKos ad and spent a lot of fried brain cells trying to figure out if it was real or not.... and I'm a dairy producer.... The thing that flummoxed me is that it's so similar to what is being done with goats in the production of goats thru GM that produce cancer drugs in their milk. I do think this is coming, the question is just how soon. My answer in the past would be to move somewhere you could have your own goat but the government is trying to make that almost impossible thru implementation of a horrible, expensive and cumbersome animal tracking system called NAIS that will be forcibly imposed even on families wanting to raise a few chickens or one lamb or pony for a 4H project. Or yes, even one family milk goat... you'll have to own equipment to install and read chips in your animals that will be capable of being tracked by satellites. Sound awful? It is. I linked onto the site from a DailyKos ad and spent a lot of fried brain cells trying to figure out if it was real or not…. and I’m a dairy producer….

The thing that flummoxed me is that it’s so similar to what is being done with goats in the production of goats thru GM that produce cancer drugs in their milk. I do think this is coming, the question is just how soon.

My answer in the past would be to move somewhere you could have your own goat but the government is trying to make that almost impossible thru implementation of a horrible, expensive and cumbersome animal tracking system called NAIS that will be forcibly imposed even on families wanting to raise a few chickens or one lamb or pony for a 4H project. Or yes, even one family milk goat… you’ll have to own equipment to install and read chips in your animals that will be capable of being tracked by satellites. Sound awful? It is.

]]> By: dgun http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215429 dgun Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:54:09 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215429 wonder cow should really be notified of this situation. * dusts off hero costume * wonder cow should really be notified of this situation.

* dusts off hero costume *

]]> By: owlbear1 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215270 owlbear1 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:37:03 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215270 Well, now that they've gotten some attention they should put out a video game. Ooh better yet a sci-fi horror movie. HiVeCoWs: Cloned just a little ToOO well! Well, now that they’ve gotten some attention they should put out a video game. Ooh better yet a sci-fi horror movie. HiVeCoWs: Cloned just a little ToOO well!

]]> By: Cyclone Dairy « A Politics of Nature http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215109 Cyclone Dairy « A Politics of Nature Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:59:49 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215109 [...] 28, 2009 Cyclone Dairy Posted by jamonhalvaksz under Uncategorized | Tags: cloning, GMO |   Nice catch on whosebehind these cyclone dairy adds…   [...] [...] 28, 2009 Cyclone Dairy Posted by jamonhalvaksz under Uncategorized | Tags: cloning, GMO |   Nice catch on whosebehind these cyclone dairy adds…   [...]

]]> By: William K. Wolfrum http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-215090 William K. Wolfrum Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:46:37 +0000 http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2009/03/27/the-cyclone-dairy-hoax-leads-to-food-water-watch/#comment-215090 Also, notice how high my stories are in a <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=news&q=%22Cyclone+dairy%22&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">Google search of CyClone Dairy</a>. This site just isn't THAT popular to go right to the top of a search. Something like this should have been getting A TON of attention for quite some time, but it received none. Until Food and Water Watch wrote about it. Also, notice how high my stories are in a Google search of CyClone Dairy. This site just isn’t THAT popular to go right to the top of a search.

Something like this should have been getting A TON of attention for quite some time, but it received none. Until Food and Water Watch wrote about it.

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